Wednesday, September 27, 2006
Oy Vey Pedro gave up 7 runs in 2 1/3 innings
Hey Din and Mike - I am really worried now. The Mets are slipping badly since they clinched the NL East. Assuming they lose tonight it will be 3 wins in their last 13 games. Pedro Martinez was knocked around pretty good by the Atlanta Braves tonight. It is obvious that he is not ready for the playoffs. Maybe he just can't get any velocity on the fast ball. It is a brand new season once the playoffs begin.
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I don't know if this rubs salt into your wounds but I will share it anyway:
The three-time Cy Young Award winner seems in no shape to pitch in next week's NL Division Series after getting knocked around badly in his final start of the regular season. The Mets had hoped to go with Martinez in Game 1, but it seems more likely that Orlando Hernandez or Tom Glavine will get the honor.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2606427
It's official: Pedro's done for the season. I don't like the Mets chances. Maybe you can trade him back to Boston so he can retire a Red Sox after he hangs it up at the end of the season. We'll give you Josh Beckett for him.
You want Pedro to retire as a Red Sock? Anyway did you know that the Red Sox will retire a uniform number if:
1. The player makes the Hall of Fame
2. The player retires as a Red Sox.
Even if Pedro returned to the Red Sox, he does not have the credentials for the Hall of Fame and would not have his number retired. I believe that the Yankees retired too many numbers. Billy Martin was fired 5 times and had his number retired. Elston Howard was a fine player, but did not have Hall of Fame credentials, but the Yankees retired his number. It is obvious that Jeter and Toree's numbers will be retired leaving the Yankees with no single digit numbers.
If you haven't heard already, Pedro is going to miss the next eight months because he just had surgery on his rotator cuff. That would mean he would be back by June at the earliest (assuming 2 months of rehab, etc, etc). I think it might be in the interest of the Mets and Pedro to just make it an even year before he comes back (so maybe August) because its a serious injury and he isn't exactly a spring chicken anymore. So Bruce - do you wish you had Barry Zito now?!
I disagree with both of you. Don't have Pedro retire as a Red Sox or Metropolitian. He should retire as a National (Expos). Granted he didn't get to a World Series there (but he would have if the season wasn't ended due to a strike in 94 or 95) but thats where he was clearly the most dominant. Plus he played a significant chunk of his career there.
Teams spend big bucks on older pitchers who are very injury prone. Look at what happened to Carl Pavano. He must have made $15 million for being injured. How many poeple make that money in a lifetime working for bureaucrats and bean counters? Randy Johnson will make multimillions next year.
The Yankees have retired the number 8 twice (Bill Dickey & Yogi Berra). The only team worse at retiring numbers is the Celtics. The rafters of the new Garden looks like a Keno board. Jim Loscutoff requested the Celtics not retire his number so they have "Loscy" on the board instead of his number (he wore #18 which was eventually retired for Dave Cowens).
Do you think the Red Sox will retire Clemens' 21?
Yes - Carl Pavano is/was overpaid.
No - Carl Pavano is not an old pitcher. He will turn 31 in January.
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